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Light Talk with The Lumen Brothers


LIGHT TALK with The Lumen Brothers (And SISTER!) is a place where lighting designers can feel free to express what really annoys them about the industry and the art of stage lighting design. Inspired by the beloved NPR radio show, CAR TALK, LIGHT TALK with The Lumen Brothers features the musings and rantings of David Jacques, Ellen Lampert-Greaux, Dennis Size, Zac Borovay, and Steve Woods. These five theatre artists have been producing and designing the live stages and broadcast events of the world for many, many decades. Burnt out and abused by the industry and the insanity of the profession, LIGHT TALK with The Lumen Brothers takes the rantings of these four theatre artists to the world. Look for our regularly scheduled Podcast discussing the issues of our time. Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and very little makes sense. Welcome to LIGHT TALK!

Jan 24, 2026

In this episode of LIGHT TALK, The Lumen Sisters interview lighting designers/programmers, Aria Hailey and Erica D. Hayes.  

Join Aria, Erica, Kelsey, and Ellen as they discuss: The challenges of being a woman in the industry; What its like to be the only woman on the bus; Opening doors; Great women designers working in theatre and the concert industries; New pathways; How to get the courage to step in; Being mistaken for another person on the show; Is it important to bring a women's perspective to lighting art?; Working with advocates; "Women in Lighting" LDI panels; Networking connections; Teaching overseas; The future of AI in programming; Dream AI tools; "Claude"... Making a programmer's life easier; Dream jobs; and Advice for the next generation of women in lighting design. 

Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and Very Little Makes Sense