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Light Talk with The Lumen Brothers

LIGHT TALK with The Lumen Brothers (And SISTER!) is a place where lighting designers can feel free to express what really annoys them about the industry and the art of stage lighting design. Inspired by the beloved NPR radio show, CAR TALK, LIGHT TALK with The Lumen Brothers features the musings and rantings of David Jacques, Ellen Lampert-Greaux, Dennis Size, Zac Borovay, and Steve Woods. These five theatre artists have been producing and designing the live stages and broadcast events of the world for many, many decades. Burnt out and abused by the industry and the insanity of the profession, LIGHT TALK with The Lumen Brothers takes the rantings of these four theatre artists to the world. Look for our regularly scheduled Podcast discussing the issues of our time. Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and very little makes sense. Welcome to LIGHT TALK!
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LIGHT TALK Episode 482 - "The Ultimate Team Sport - Our Conversation with David Grill"

Jul 1, 2026

In this episode of LIGHT TALK, The Lumen Brothers and Sister interview Lighting Designer David Grill.

Join David, Ellen, Dennis, and Steve, as they discuss:  Finding your first job; Why it took 37 years to get to Broadway; Working at Radio City; Working with Ken; Getting into Dance; "My Son is a Lighting Designer!"; Choreographing with Light; Stories from Designing the Superbowl Halftime Show; Sleeping under a Tarp; Working with new lighting technology; Luring one into the visual picture; What David did during the Pandemic; The University of Klages; Becoming a Good Teacher; and Advice for young theatre lighting designers.

Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and Very Little Makes Sense.